click here to learn more about being redeemed from sin and set free to serve God in spirit and in truth. click here to learn more about holiness click here to learn more about being changed into the same image click here to learn more about sowing and reaping click here to learn more about the free gift of righteousness. click here to learn more about how faith gives us access to grace and grace does the works. click here to learn more about faith and how it comes. click here to learn more about acknowledging Jesus click here to learn more about how God speaks Who will you listen to?  Click here to learn more. click here to learn more about the pattern of God. click here to learn more about the pattern of God for individuals, marriage, and family. click here to learn more about the pattern of God for the local church click here to learn more about the Church universal
 
SeekFind Logo Menu

Grammatical Presupposition / Assumptive Language

 

Grammatical Presupposition

Whenever a logical fallacy is committed, the fallacy has its roots in Agrippa's trilemma. All human thought (without Divine revelation) is based on one of three unhappy possibilities. These three possibilities are infinite regression, circular reasoning, or axiomatic thinking. This is known as Agrippa's trilemma. Some have claimed that only logic and math can be known; however, that is not true. Without Divine revelation, neither logic nor math can be known. Science is limited only to pragmatic thinking because of the weakness of human reasoning, which is known as Agrippa's trilemma. Grammatical presupposition, a form of axiomatic thinking, is one of these three unhappy possibilities.

The logical fallacy of grammatical presupposition occurs when presuppositions are hidden in language. Words and phrases such as "when," "whenever," "how," "why," "obviously," or "where" become tools to insert hidden presuppositions.

Examples of Grammatical Presupposition

Sandy: "Obviously, when we discovered that we are all stardust . . ."

This phrase has three nested presuppositions hidden in the words: "obviously," "when," and "we discovered." This is irrational and one of the hypnotic methods that are used on you. It works by overloading your ability to consciously process information and to attempt to slip ideas into your innermost mind without your awareness.

Bill Nye arguing against Creation science: “Now, I just want to remind us all, there are billions of people in the world who are deeply religious, who get enriched by the wonderful sense of community from their religion. They worship together. They eat together. They live in their communities and enjoy each other’s company. Billions of people, but these same people do not embrace the ‘extraordinary’ view that the Earth is ‘somehow’ only 6,000 years old. That is unique.”

"I just want to remind us all” This is a grammatical presupposition inserted into a sentence. If Bill is "reminding" us, then there is no need to question anything that he says, since he is merely reminding us of what we already know. Also notice the strange grammar again. This is a very subtle technique that he is using to continue to build his "the world against Ken Ham" argument, which is an extreme form of bandwagon fallacy.

“there are billions of people in the world who are deeply religious, who get enriched by the wonderful sense of community by their religion.” This is a logical fallacy of understatement. Bill Nye is implying that the purpose of the church is to get enriched by the wonderful sense of community. The fact is that the purpose of the church is to so come to know Christ that we becomes transformed into His same image from glory to glory by the Spirit of the Lord. And there is much more to it than that. When someone knows nothing about a subject, it would be helpful if they were to avoid speaking as an expert on the subject.

“these same people do not embrace the ‘extraordinary’ view that the Earth is ‘somehow’ only 6,000 years old.  That is unique.” Bill Nye is using the logical fallacy of Argumentum Ad Lapidem, with the word, "extraordinary," implying that a belief is absurd without proving it to be absurd. Here Bill Nye also employs the logical fallacies of marginalizing,bandwagon, and creating a false impression to manipulate the minds of the audience to his political view. Bill Nye also uses the logical fallacy of the outright lie, saying, “the extraordinary view that the Earth is ‘somehow’ only 6,000 years old. That is unique.” This statement is made to marginalize, but it is clearly false. The belief that the Earth is 6,000 years old is shared by about half (46%) of all Americans. So this lie was perpetrated to activate the logical fallacy of bandwagon, but how many people believe something can have no possible impact on what reality is. Perhaps Bill is saying that anyone who disagrees with him is holding an extraordinary view.

Bill Nye is also lumping unlike things as if they were one thing, which is the logical fallacy of faulty analogy. The fact is that Atheism is a religion, but Atheists don’t want it classified as a religion, so they resort to using the definist fallacy by defining religion in a way that helpful in persuading the audience to believe the conclusion but doesn’t really support the conclusion. They define the word, religion, in a way that includes everyone but themselves. However, their belief in not God or belief that no one can know God is based on vapor, made up stuff. It is held on make-believe faith. And, atheists do “get enriched by the wonderful sense of community by their religion.” Atheism is a philosophy about God. It is a belief that God doesn’t exist. Agnosticism is a belief that no one can know anything about God or spiritual things. Both are irrational in many ways, but they are religions. The big-bang-billions-of-years-molecules-to-man story is a religious doctrine of Atheism, and most Agnostics believe it as well. Lumping followers of Christ in with all religions misses the point. Jesus Christ is the Son of God. All things came into existence by Him and without Him nothing came into existence. We know this by revelation. The Holy Spirit Himself tells us this. This makes Jesus Christ unique and not to be lumped in with any religions. Some people make the following of Jesus Christ into a religion, and the apostle, James, wrote that true religion is this: caring for widows and orphans. James, however, had a completely different definition of religion from Bill Nye.

    1. About NOMA and other tricks and double-talk
    2. Feedback: The God of an Old Earth
    3. Feedback: Deeply Saddened over Old-Earth Compromise
    4. Jewish Scientists Who Oppose Darwinism
    5. Muslims—Creationists’ Friend?
    6. Building Bridges with Muslims
    7. Evolution, the Election and the “Enlightened”
    8. Council of Europe Proposes Creation Motion Again
    9. A Young Earth—It’s Not the Issue!

 



Author/Compiler
Last updated: Sep, 2014
 
 




Bread Crumbs

 
Home     >   Meaning     >   Christian Witness     >   Encyclopedia of Logical Fallacies     >   Presumptions, Bare Assertions, and Lies     >   Grammatical Presupposition

Main

Foundations

Home

Meaning

Bible

Dictionary

History

Toons & Vids

Quotations

Similar

Logical Fallacy of Ipse dixit /Just Because Fallacy / Trust Me / Mother Knows Best Fallacy / Because I Said So / You'll See

Logical Fallacy of Unsupported Assertion / Alleged Certainty / Appeal to Common Sense / Bare Assertion Fallacy / Unprovable Statement / Groundless Claim

Secret Knowledge Fallacy

Allness Fallacy

Autistic Certainty Fallacy

Logical Fallacy of Assertion Contrary to Fact / Counterfactual Fallacy / Lie / Untruth

Big Lie Technique / Staying on Message

Logical Fallacy of the Outright Lie / Total Lie

Logical Fallacy of the Bold-Faced Lie / Bald-Faced Lie

Appeal to Confidence

Logical Fallacy of Hypothesis Contrary to Fact / Argumentum Ad Speculum / speculative fallacy /

Logical Fallacy of False Prophecy

Argument to the Future / Escape to the Future

Escape Via Ignorance

Logical Fallacy of Argumentum Ex Culo

Logical Fallacy of Blind Obedience / Blind Authority / Team Player

Logical Fallacy of False Accusation / Finding a Fault Where None Exists / False Conflict / False Error

Argument from Omniscience

Logical Fallacy of Universal Negative

As Far As Anyone Knows Fallacy

Proving a Negative Fallacy / Negative Proof Fallacy

Claim of Unknowables Fallacy

The Logical Fallacy of Presupposition/Assumptive Thinking

Irrelevant Purpose Fallacy

Propositional Fallacy

Thompson Invisibility Syndrome

Logical Fallacy of Presumption

Grammatical Presupposition / Assumptive Language

Arbitrary Thinking

Reversible Logic

Floating Abstraction Fallacy

Logical Fallacy of Proof by Implied Unsupported Assertion / Implied Lie

Spiritual Fallacy / Spiritual Excuse

I Wish I Had a Magic Wand Fallacy / Feigned Powerlessness

Pious Fraud

Logical Fallacy of False Open-Mindedness


Recent

Home

Answer to Critic

Appeal to Possibility

Circular Reasoning

Argument to the Future

Insignificant Cause

Word Magic

Love Between a Man and Woman

Author/Compiler

Colossians 2

Righteousness & Holiness

Don't Compromise

Sin

Proof by Atheism

Scriptures About Marriage

Genuine Authority

The Reason for Rejecting Truth

Witness on the Internet

Flaky Human Reasoning

How Do You Know?



Featured


The Real Purpose of the Church

The Real Purpose of Life

From Glory to Glory

REAL Faith--What it IS & IS NOT

REAL Love--What it IS & IS NOT

How to be Led by God

How to Witness

Wisdom: Righteousness & Reality

Holiness & Mind/Soul

Redemption: Free From Sin

Real Reality

Stories Versus Revelation

Understanding Logic

Logical Fallacies

Circular Reasoning-Who is Guilty?

How Can We Know Anything?

God's Word

God's Process

God's Pattern

Mind Designed to Relate to God

Answers for the Confused

Fossil Record Says: "Creation"

Avoid These Pitfalls

Public School's Religion

Twisting Science

Evolutionism

Public School Failures

Twisting History


How can we know anything about anything? That's the real question

more info: mouseover or click

The complexity of Gods Way understood in a single diagram
Obey your flesh and descend into darkness