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"If God Exists" Fallacy

The "if God exists" fallacy is one of the many smokescreens that are used to cover the fact that the reasoning is based on one of the three fallacies of Agrippa's trilemma. Whenever a logical fallacy is committed, the fallacy has its roots in Agrippa's trilemma. All human thought (without Divine revelation) is based on one of three unhappy possibilities. These three possibilities are infinite regress, circular reasoning, or axiomatic thinking. This problem is known as Agrippa's trilemma. Some have claimed that only logic and math can be known without Divine revelation; however, that is not true. There is no reason to trust either logic or math without Divine revelation. Science is also limited to the pragmatic because of the weakness on human reasoning, which is known as Agrippa's trilemma.

The "If God exists" fallacy occurs when logic similar to this is used, "If the all powerful and benevolent God defined in the Bible exists, then He wouldn't allow _____. However, _____ exists. Therefore, God does not exist. The form of this argument is valid, but the two premises are not. A simple question will test both the major and minor premises and show that they are not known. "How do you know?" The answer is, "I made it up." What is common to all of these is that the person using the fallacy assumes that he or she is all-knowing. They make statements about goodness, evil, what God would or should do, and the nature of spiritual and physical reality. These statements often make implied claims about what God is doing or accomplishing through His Creation and what the ultimate end is. These statements are all in the realm that is beyond what human beings can know except by divine revelation. Since the statements are designed to try to explain away the Almighty, divine revelation would be self-refuting if claimed.

Agrippa's Trilemma eliminates any possibility of logically analyzing what God would do or anything else about God. In fact, it eliminates that possibility of analyzing logic or science. Fortunately, Agrippa's Trilemma only affects those who refuse to acknowledge God.

Examples of the "If God Exists" Fallacy

Leibniz: Whoever does not choose the best is lacking in power, or in knowledge, or in goodness. God did not choose the best in creating this world. Therefore, God has been lacking in power, or in knowledge, or in goodness.

How does Leibniz think that he knows that God didn't choose the best in creating this world? What inside track does Leibniz have to understand the nature of the reality outside of the confines of time and space? Perhaps, it may be that Leibniz didn't understand the difference between power, authority, and spiritual reality. Perhaps, if Leibniz had all power, he thinks that he could have done it more efficiently than God. The question remains, how does he think that he knows this? The answer is obvious. It is the same answer that must be given to every anti-God, anti-Christ, and anti-Bible claim. The way people manufacture such "knowledge" is through arbitrary assumptions, made-up stories, irrational thinking, or outright lies.

People who make this type of claim assume that they know the end of the work that God is doing. They assume that God is not patient enough to do something that takes many ages, each of which is a day to God. They assume that God could have done it another way, that there is not something in the nature of spiritual reality that makes God's way the very best way that things could have been done to achieve God's final desired result.

An Atheist website: A God that is all powerful would be able to prevent evil and suffering. A God that is all knowing would know that evil and suffering happen. A God that is all loving wouldn't want evil and suffering to happen and would take needed action to stop it. Evil and suffering happen. Unstated Conclusion: There is no all powerful, all knowing, all loving God.

Again, the question is, "How does this person know?" They have made three bazaar claims. How do they know that these three claims are true. In fact, they are assertions contrary to fact. People who make these kinds of claims think that they have far more knowledge of the physical and spiritual realm than they actually do. It would be interesting to ask for the proof of each of these statements or at least the steps of the repeatable scientific experiment by which we all could prove them to ourselves.

The fact is, that we know the Almighty, All-Powerful, All-Loving, Creator God. He reveals Himself to us. He also reveals His nature to us. He also asks us to trust Him. He is doing a work. The fullness of that work won't be understood by us until the end of the ages of the ages.

 


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