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Can Christians Lose Salvation?


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Can a Christian lose salvation?

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If you are asking whether a Christian who is born again can become un-born again, that would be difficult to answer. If God wanted us to try to find the lowest place, then perhaps He would have invested some of the Scripture to explaining this, but He is always calling us higher and closer to Himself both before and after we have been born again. If you are asking whether or not a Christian who is born again can remain immature and never be found faithful? That is a different question and the answer is, yes.

The meaning of salvation or saved is different from the meaning of born again. Salvation is completed at the manifestation of the sons of God, the adoption, which is the redemption of our bodies, the day when we all come in the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the son of God to a perfect man to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ. This is the purpose of the Church. Our spirits are redeemed and joined to the Holy Spirit the moment we are born again. It is obvious, both from experience and from Scripture, that our minds and bodies have not yet been redeemed.

Here is an excerpt from the email that SeekFind.net received. (The entire email is printed further down the page.) The following is an extreme, extra-biblical view that confuses many and takes away their hope:

The most frequent objections to the belief that a Christian cannot lose salvation are 1) What about those who are Christians and continually live an immoral lifestyle? 2) What about those who are Christians but later reject the faith and deny Christ? The problem with these two objections is the phrase "who are Christians." The Bible declares that a true Christian will not live a continually immoral lifestyle (1 John 3:6). The Bible declares that anyone who departs the faith is demonstrating that he never truly was a Christian (1 John 2:19). Therefore, neither objection is valid. Christians do not continually live immoral lifestyles, nor do they reject the faith and deny Christ. Such actions are proof that they were never redeemed.

The viewpoint that was just quoted in red print is an extreme view and is not based in Scripture nor is it in agreement with experience. I would suppose that everyone knows someone who really thought that they believed in Jesus as their only Lord and Savior from sin, death, and the power of the devil, yet that person walked away from God. The writer of this theological opinion states that these people whom we know were never Christians. If that is true, and it is also true that you really think that you believe in Jesus as your only Lord and Savior from sin, death, and the power of the devil, you may not really be born again. How could you know? How are you different from that person who thought that they believed? The trouble with these extreme, extra-biblical views is that they create crazy scenarios such as this one. And people do indeed become confused or even lose their faith when people, like the one who wrote the red text previously mentioned, go beyond Scripture.

One thing is sure: If a Christian begins to wander from the will of God and becomes addicted to or deceived by some sin, that Christian will lose something. Will they become un-born again? Has God told us the answer to that? Can we make the statement without making assumptions? There is plenty in Scripture where God speaks to us about security that cannot be taken from us.

Using the term, lose salvation is confusing. They will not lose the salvation or redemption of their spirit because they repeatedly sin. God will keep calling them back to follow Him. Think about it. The Bible clearly states that whatever is not of faith is sin. Since faith comes by hearing and hearing comes by an utterance of God, that means that God leads us. Whenever we fail to listen and obey, that is sin. We are in the process of learning to be led and learning to allow grace, the free gift of righteousness, to do the work of God through us. We are just learning this.

If a true Christian will not live a continually immoral lifestyle, then where do we need to set the arbitrary bar of morality to make sure that the teacher of this false doctrine ends up being saved? The teacher of this doctrine will certainly want to be on the right side, but we know that he or she is not perfect. We know that they think wrong thoughts from time to time. If we set the bar that high, then all of us are lost, so we better lower the bar. Let's not talk about words. Let's lower it to deeds. Maybe we will make it only sexual sin. That should be popular. And it has to go to actual physical adultery. Now, how many times must a person sin in this way to call it an immoral lifestyle? This doctrine may be called "Eternal Security," but it should be called "Eternal Insecurity." You can never know if you are saved, since other people thought they were saved, and they now, supposedly, were never saved. You can't get there without denying other Scripture and without assumptions. Assumptions have zero truth value.

There is another form of eternal security that says that once you have been born again, you can rebel totally against God and it will not affect your salvation. There is scripture that seems to contradict this. There is also Romans 10:6 says, 'But the righteousness that is by faith says: "Do not say in your heart, 'Who will ascend into heaven?'" (that is, to bring Christ down)' Perhaps, God didn't make these things plain because He wants our focus on the upward way, not the bare minimum amount to be saved.

The problem comes in whenever we go beyond what God has said through Scripture. What God has said in Scripture is enough. There is no need to add to it or to delete any of it. Being born again is that start of something. There is much about pressing toward the mark of the high calling.

The reality is that what you do affects how you think and how you think affects what you do.

Hebrews 2:1-4 1Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip. 2For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompense of reward; 3How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed to us by them that heard him; 4God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?

But what about 1 John 3:6 which says: Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him? This is a difficult verse and many have speculated concerning its meaning. We know this, that there is only one person who meets this criteria. His name is Jesus. We also know that when we are born again, we become two people. We are the manifestation of Jesus Christ in the Earth because He lives in us and does His works through us. We experience His abiding presence in thought, word, and deed. Jesus, the Christ Who is in us, cannot sin. (1 Jn. 3:4-11) We also know that we have the flesh. The flesh can do no righteousness. It can be a hypocrite and can try to project the image of righteousness, but it is evil and in it is no good thing. The flesh has not seen Jesus; neither does it know Jesus. This is probably what John meant when he wrote this. He didn't mean that, if you sin, you have never been born again. In the same letter, John states that anyone who claims to have no sin is a liar.

But what about 1 John 2:18 which says: They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us? If you look at the previous verse, you will see that John, here, is speaking of the spirit of antichrist. He doesn't mention faith at all.

2 Timothy 2:12-13 says: If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us: If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself. Belief and faith are the same thing, though there is a type of belief that is not faith. The kind of faith that a Christian has is a faith that is imparted by God through God's revelation and leading. Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by a word (literally, utterance) of God. You see that we can lack faith and still He is faithful. However, if we Christians deny Him, then He will also deny us.

The following email came to the SeekFind.net inbox and it is a cause for concern as it goes well beyond what the Scripture teaches and it ignores so much of what the Scripture teaches. It is here so that readers can examine what it wrong with the theories contained in it.

Question: "Can a Christian lose salvation?"

Answer: Before this question is answered, the term "Christian" must be defined. A "Christian" is not a person who has said a prayer, or walked down an aisle, or been raised in a Christian family. While each of these things can be a part of the Christian experience, they are not what "makes" a Christian. A Christian is a person who has, by faith, received and fully trusted in Jesus Christ as the only Savior (John 3:16; Acts 16:31; Ephesians 2:8-9).

So, with this definition in mind, can a Christian lose salvation? Perhaps the best way to answer this crucially important question is to examine what the Bible says occurs at salvation, and to study what losing salvation would therefore entail. Here are a few examples:

A Christian is a new creation. "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!" (2 Corinthians 5:17). This verse speaks of a person becoming an entirely new creature as a result of being "in Christ." For a Christian to lose salvation, the new creation would have to be canceled and reversed.

This brings up the question: are all who have been born again in Christ? If they are in the Body of Christ, they are in Christ. What is the Body of Christ?

For Adam, the son of God, to have left the Garden of Eden, his position as son of God would have to be cancelled and reversed. Can a Christian walk away from God? If the answer is no,

  1. then a lot of Scripture has to be rationalized away.
  2. then the person who walks away from God never was saved.

Some claim that a person keeps his or her salvation even if they walk away from God completely. (the teaching of The Way International). They can curse God, become an Atheist, and work against the gospel and deny Christ without consequence. They cannot fall away according to this doctrine. The question is then, "How much sin can I do without ending up in hell." The answer is, "As much as you like," according to this theory.

A Christian is redeemed. "For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your forefathers, but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect" (1 Peter 1:18-19). The word "redeemed" refers to a purchase being made, a price being paid. For a Christian to lose salvation, God Himself would have to revoke His purchase that He paid for with the precious blood of Christ.

Not true. Christ died for every man, woman, and child, whether they accept Him as Lord and Savior or not.

A Christian is justified. "Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ" (Romans 5:1). To "justify" means to "declare righteous." All those who receive Jesus as Savior are "declared righteous" by God. For a Christian to lose salvation, God would have to go back on His Word and "un-declare" what He had previously declared.

This line of thinking is along the line of an extreme rationalization regarding a fatalistic view of predestination. God set (predestinated those whom He forknew). He knew ahead of time that they would be faithful and finally be conformed to the image of Jesus. Note, that this is not referring to being born again. It is referring to being conformed to the image of Christ. We don't have such foreknowledge, so we cannot know who is set in advance to be conformed. God didn't say that He predestinated anyone to Hell. In God's plan, those who are justified are also justified in advance, since God knew what they would do. Now, God does not lie. He does not call anything just that is not just. "He who doeth righteousness is righteous." as John said. However, through foreknowledge, God can declare it so from the beginning since He alone knows how it is all going to happen.

A Christian is promised eternal life. "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life" (John 3:16). Eternal life is a promise of eternity (forever) in heaven with God. God promises, "Believe and you will have eternal life." For a Christian to lose salvation, eternal life would have to be taken away. If a Christian is promised to live forever, how then can God break this promise by taking away eternal life?

Eternal life is literally the life of the coming age. Is it possible to possess this life and lose it? God doesn't tell us the answer. In fact, this life shines on every person, since Christ is the light that lighteth every man. People are able to reject the light. God intends that the path of the just should be as a shining ling that shines more and more until that perfect day. That is the day of the manifestation of the Sons of God. It is very possible for a Christian to reject God's leading into more light. To remain as we are is sin. It is also possible (we have certainly all witnessed it) to see Christians turn completely away from the light. God has not given us ability to examine their walk or their hearts completely as He sees them. Nor has God called us to try to judge in these matters.

A Christian is guaranteed glorification. "And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified" (Romans 8:30). As we learned in Romans 5:1, justification is declared at the moment of faith. According to Romans 8:30, glorification is guaranteed for all those whom God justifies. Glorification refers to a Christian receiving a perfect resurrection body in heaven. If a Christian can lose salvation, then Romans 8:30 is in error, because God could not guarantee glorification for all those whom He predestines, calls, and justifies.

Let's add the context of that Scripture and the meaning is more clear.

1 Corinthians 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate [set or appoint ahead of time] to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

Those who God foreknew are so guaranteed. The problem is that we do not foreknow as God forknows. God foreknew who would receive Him, so He was able to justly foreordain or set ahead of time.

This is not an appointment to barely squeak into Heaven and closely miss hell. This is an appointment to be among those who go from glory to glory according to 2 Corinthians 3:18 and who come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the son of God the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ according to Ephesians 4:11-16. These are those who experience the manifestation and the redemption of their bodies according to Romans 8:18-23.

Many more illustrations of what occurs at salvation could be shared. Even these few make it abundantly clear that a Christian cannot lose salvation. Most, if not all, of what the Bible says happens to us when we receive Jesus Christ as Savior would be invalidated if salvation could be lost. Salvation cannot be reversed. A Christian cannot be un-newly created. Redemption cannot be undone. Eternal life cannot be lost and still be considered eternal. If a Christian can lose salvation, God would have to go back on His Word and change His mind-two things that Scripture tells us God never does.

None of these rationalizations are true as the answers above clearly show.

The most frequent objections to the belief that a Christian cannot lose salvation are 1) What about those who are Christians and continually live an immoral lifestyle? 2) What about those who are Christians but later reject the faith and deny Christ? The problem with these two objections is the phrase "who are Christians." The Bible declares that a true Christian will not live a continually immoral lifestyle (1 John 3:6). The Bible declares that anyone who departs the faith is demonstrating that he never truly was a Christian (1 John 2:19). Therefore, neither objection is valid. Christians do not continually live immoral lifestyles, nor do they reject the faith and deny Christ. Such actions are proof that they were never redeemed.

This brings us back to the problem of eternal insecurity. Many people who believed with all their heart that Jesus was their Lord and Savior have, for one reason or another, fallen away and walked away from the faith. This writer is claiming that they never believed well enough. But they confess as everyone else confessed. They believed as everyone else believed. So, if this writer is correct, then no one can be certain that they believe well enough to really be saved. That is nonsense. It seems that God doesn't want us judging these matters, and that He wants us to press toward the mark of His high calling, not to merely try to make sure we are born, but to grow up into Him.

Here is another terrible problem this this person's theology. How much sin makes a person fall into the un-born-again ones who thought that they were born again, but they continually live an immoral lifestyle. Must they never have any thought that is not of faith in order to know that they are saved? Suppose they are really trying to walk with God, but they have a lustful thought. Does that mean that they were never saved? Where is the magic line that shows that they were never saved? Some of the saddest letters we get at SeekFind.net are those from people who don't know if they are saved because of this theology. Worse than that is the theology that says that if they commit sins, then there is no place of repentance. They now are convinced that there is no way that they can repent. And all of this is "based on Scripture," plus a few arbitrary assumptions.

First of all, what extent of sin puts you over the line in backsliding. Is it having one wrong thought? Two? Fourteen? A thousand? Or does it come at saying a mean or off-color word? Again, how many or how bad would the word have to be? Or is it a physical act that is required to prove that they were never saved? Let's set the line at a physical act and we could then just imagine which acts would prove that a person was not saved. Then, we need to determine how many occurrences would prove that the person is continually living an immoral lifestyle. We could put that law into a book somewhere so that every false teacher in every church could teach their false doctrine properly.

When doctrine is false, it becomes very complex. This is the case with many versions of the "eternal security" doctrine. While there seems to be some truth, ask yourself, "Does God really say what the theologians are saying He says?" "Are they adding to God's Words?" "Are they denying the parts of Scripture that seem to be saying that you can fall away?" "Are you trying to find the bare minimum to be saved?"

The person who preaches a message like this is either claiming not to have a sinful nature (John says they are calling God a liar.) or else setting the law-line just beyond his or her own sin problem.

The fact is that there is no amount of sin that can negate their salvation. However, sin takes people out of the presence of God and they end up choosing to walk away from God. Unless they stop walking away from God, they will end up falling away, just as so many scriptures say that they fall away.

No, a Christian cannot lose salvation. Nothing can separate a Christian from God's love (Romans 8:38-39). Nothing can remove a Christian from God's hand (John 10:28-29). God is both willing and able to guarantee and maintain the salvation He has given us. Jude 24-25, "To Him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joy-to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen."

It is true that nothing can separate us from the love of God. God loves sinners. God loves the unsaved or else no one could ever be saved. God loves his entire kosmos, His entire creation. God is able to keep you from falling. In fact, it takes a real act of rebellion for a Christian to fall away from God completely. What we can readily observe is that Christians who begin to walk worldly also begin to slowly change their theology or accommodate their wayward walking. Some of these people actually change their theology to Atheism or New Age cults. Without the Holy Spirit, people can go anywhere and can walk completely away from God.

 


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This page is provided to answer a specific question, but don\'t get tied up in detail and forget where you are going. You get past the questions/attacks so you can proclaim the Gospel. It is the proclamation of the Gospel, not argumentation, that transforms minds. See Give Them the Gospel. If you have not read Stories Versus Truth, you may want to read that before reading this. Almost all Evolutionists are...


If you have not read Stories Versus Truth, you may want to read that before reading this.   Even More Questions that Evolutionists Cannot Answer This is a page full of questions about creation and about evolution. Has life really existed on Earth for thousands of millions of years? Using no emotional arguments or rationalizations, but only actual empirical observation and deductive logic, what proof can you offer for this? When you try...


If you have not read Stories Versus Truth, you may want to read that before reading this.   Are Super-Germs an Example of Evolution In Action? NO! They are a problem for Evolutionism. Super-germs are not examples of adding order, Information, organization, an increase in complexity or improvement of function. Super-Germs are, in fact, examples of lost order, Information, organization, a decrease in complexity and degradation of function. This decrease in function has resulted...


An example where someone came to the conclusion that Acts 2:5-11 contained an error. One scoffer wrote that the Bible gives the wrong value for Pi: Article: The_Value_Of_Pi One scoffer claimed that there are three incompatible principles in the Bible: God has all power, God would have all to be saved, all people will not be saved? Article: The_Three_Incompatible_Principles Some have claimed that the Bible has an error in the report that tells...


Both materialistic evolutionary theory and theistic (God-controlled) evolutionary theory claim that we are all descendants of fish.  Who could believe such a message?  Only someone who wants to avoid God. Given the scientific facts that have been uncovered, a person would have to be willingly ignorant to believe such a thing. They would have to want very badly not to know about God\'s power and sovereignty, wouldn\'t they? They...


Does Evil Exist? This may or may not be a true story.  The author is unknown, but the point is valid. A university professor challenged his students with this question. \"Did God create everything that exists? A student bravely replied, \"Yes, He did!\" \"God created everything?\" The professor asked. \"Yes, sir,\" the student replied. The professor answered, \"If God created everything, then God created evil, since evil exists. And according to the principal...


If you have not read Stories Versus Truth, you may want to read that before reading this. In answering this type of challenge, we must remember the words of George Macdonald: \"To try to explain truth to him who loves it not is but to give him more plentiful material for misinterpretation.\" Also, the words of Richard Weaver: \"How frequently it is brought to our attention that nothing good can be...


Evolution and Confusing Words Have you noticed how many important words have at least two meanings. Often these meanings are exact opposites. Here are a few examples: Axiom of science Meaning #1: a principle that has been proven, by observation and experience, beyond a reasonable doubt. Examples: Second Law of Thermodynamics, Inverse Square Law of Gravity. Meaning #2: an assumption or made up story, that is, a fabrication, which is accepted on make...


If you have not read Stories Versus Truth, you may want to read that before reading this.   False Credentials Phoney Credentials are an old ploy. You create a legal way to make yourself or someone else an expert. There are many ways of creating the illusion of authority. Certificates, degrees, licenses, tests, and many other methods may be used to create this illusion of authority. Once you create the illusion, you ask...


If a person were going to be an evolutionist, he or she must keep reworking the hypothesis to fit the unsupported assumptions upon which evolution is based, ever going further out on the limb. Evolution isn\'t science. An evolutionist must fall in love with the presuppositions of Humanism to be able to keep defending this unworkable, improbable hypothesis. This is not an intellectual problem. It is a spiritual problem. \"I am...


How have the schools teamed up with Hollywood to spread a myth about the Scopes Monkey Trial?   One of the many myths that an evolutionist will try to sell is this: an evolutionist will try to convince people that defense lawyer Clarence Darrow, the evolutionist, made the fundamentalist prosecutor William Jennings Bryan look like a fool over the Bible. William Jennings Bryan did, at times, look like a fool in the...


Junk Science Ungodliness teaches a form of logic that allows speculation, which is not valid. Evolution and other junk science depend on this false logic to fool people into thinking that their unsupported claims might have some value. There are many varied ways in which this is done, and some of the methods are difficult to detect, but they all violate true logic. True logic is simply a set of rules...


Question: I\'m 28 years old and I\'m from the United Kingdom. I said the sinners\' prayer in 2005 with some other Christians and I\'ve been going to church ever since. I got baptized in 2006. I was drinking very excessively before I started coming to church and I continued to live in this sin of drunkenness even when I was hearing the gospel at church and after I got baptized. When...


If you have not read Stories Versus Truth, you may want to read that before reading this. Does Evolutionism Have a Dependency on Abiogenesis? Feedback: \"evolution has nothing to do with creation or how life formed from non-life. that is abiogenesis. evolution is change over time.\" Dear Reader, Thank you for your comment. Your feedback brings up a matter of semantics, acually equivocation. Many Evolutionists want abiogenesis split from the Evolutionistic story. The stories...


A reader thought that this quote had been refuted.  Feedback from a reader is in the box.  We answer below that just because someone claims do have refuted something does not mean that they have refuted it.   Comment: \"We\'ve staked our future on our ability to follow the Ten Commandments with all of our heart.\" James Madison  this is completely false. james madison never said this. this is a made up quote from...


There is evidence of a restructuring of the planet on a scale and in a way that would be consistent with a world-wide flood. The types of restructuring that is evident is difficult to interpret in any other way other than that there was a world-wide, catastrophic flood followed by a shifting of the earth's surface in which the ocean areas went down and the continents and mountains went up....


The Scripture Testifies to Holiness as the Heritage of the Church 1 John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 1 John 2:8 Again, a new commandment I write to you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now...


For those who think that they can have love without God, John, answers the question: "No."    Without God, there is no love.  Are you missing out on love?    For those who think that they can have God without having love, the answer is also, "No."    God is Love.   1 John 4:7  Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. 1...


God Made A Way; The Name Of God's Way Is Jesus. John 14:6 Jesus saith to him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh to the Father, but by me.  Rom 5:18-19 Therefore as by the offense of one [judgment came] upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one [the free gift came] upon all men to justification of life. For as by...


Evolution\'s Cultic Dogma   Here is a quick explanation of why evolution is religious dogma of many cults and it is not science. EVOLUTION IS A SERIES OF BROKEN ARGUMENTS A common tactic of Evolutionists is to stack one bogus argument on top of another and continue this process hoping to bury you in the debris. On examining each argument, you find that not one of them has any value. Since they have no...


It is the truth that will set you free. Many, over the last century, have taken up the insane, unwarranted, and unsupported claim that there is no truth, that there is no reality. This, of course, is an obvious lie. There is real truth and there are real lies And when you state something is true, you are stating that it corresponds with reality.  It is the Truth that Will Set You Free. ...


I have a question about James chapter 5 verses 13 and 14. In verse 13 we are told that if we are afflicted to pray and if we are merry to sing psalms. However, in verse 14, instead of praying for ourselves when we are sick, we are told to call on the elders.   In 13 we do the praying and rejoicing ourselves, but not in 14.   Why does it...


If you have not read Stories Versus Truth, you may want to read that before reading this. Don\'t forget where you are going. You get past the questions/attacks so you can proclaim the Gospel. It is the proclamation of the Gospel, not argumentation, that transforms minds. See Give Them the Gospel. A Supposed Error by Jesus Jesus said that there were some who would not taste of death until they have seen Jesus\'...


Unless you are born again, you will lose out.  You can\'t enter the Kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith to him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother\'s womb, and be born?  Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say to thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the <\"\" />kingdom of God.  ...


John 3:1 - 21 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: The same came to Jesus by night, and said to him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. Jesus answered and said to him, Verily, verily, I say to thee, Except a man be...


If you have not read Stories Versus Truth, you may want to read that before reading this.   What Is the Foundational Basis For Evolution Short answer Evolutionism is based on observation and mathematical logic and rationalized speculation and presupposed assumptions. Evolutionism presupposes that there is no God, there was no flood, there was no creation, and there are no miracles. You may wonder how a Christian would put up with the obvious conflict...


Short Answer Naturalism, the presupposition that God doesn\'t do anything, is not a valid assumption.  Actually, there are no valid assumptions.  This assumption, however, violates all that God has revealed to His people.   It violates what God has revealed through creation.  There is no way that Naturalism can account for creation.  That would mean that nothing created everything with no cause or energy.  Impossible!  The stories, such as the big...


Liberals Are NOT Open-Minded Worldly Liberals, including Evolutionists, strippers, the majority of public school teachers, people involved in all sorts of perversion, and News reporters, are only open to worldly liberal ideas. Actually, evolutionists are not open-minded to any ideas outside of the realm of worldly Liberalism. They are not open to the idea that God created the universe in six days, though that is what the physical evidence shows. They...


It is important that we are obedient to the Spirit of God as He reveals the order in the Scripture.  We are learning to hear His Voice and respond to it.  It is also important to note that no one can select his or her own calling or gift.  No one can decide to have an office in the Church or a gift of the Spirit or a certain ministry. ...


Teachings of Scriptural Christianity Biblical Christianity\'s Teachings on God: The Only God is triune, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. He is all-powerful, all-knowing, everywhere-present, and has always existed. No person can find purpose or meaning in life or be fulfilled outside of a relationship with God. God is love and wants a personal relationship with every person. Biblical Christianity Teachings on the Perfect Creation: God created the universe and everything in it,...


If you have not read Stories Versus Truth, you may want to read that before reading this. Why Do People Conform and Profess Belief In Evolution? Most people who believe in Evolution do so because they have never heard an alternative and they have never really been told about Evolution\'s many problems. In most schools, Evolution is taught as a religious dogma that cannot be questioned. And it is taught as if...


There Is Only One Scriptural Church Government Order.  There Are Many Man-engineered Orders For Church Government.  Scriptural Church Order: There is only one order defined in Scripture for the Church.  That order of authority is the Spiritual order.  It is the order of the Holy Spirit.  In the Kingdom of the Heavens, when it fully comes, this Spiritual order will become the order of the government of the entire earth. ...


If you have not read Stories Versus Truth, you may want to read that before reading this.   More Questions that Evolutionists Cannot Answer Who or what provided the material for the big bang? Why didn\'t it implode rather than explode? What are the specifics of the method by which the big bang coagulated into stars? What are the specifics of the method by which the planets were formed? Fifteen Questions for Evolutionists Fifteen Questions...


The baptism of the Holy Spirit is real and available to you today. Speaking in tongues is Biblical. Scripture speaks of two distinct types of tongues. Liberalism rejects the power of the Holy Spirit We can speak by the Spirit of God or not. 1 Corinthians 12:2-3 You know that when you were pagans, you were led astray to the mute [incapable of articulate speech] idols, however you were led. Wherefore I...


The manifestation of the sons of God is the next great event that will take place.  When it does take place, it will be a tribulation to those at ease in Zion [the church], but it will be a day of light to those who are walking in obedience.  To some, it will come as a thief in the night (1 Thessalonians 5:2).  To others, it will be one final...


Protecting the Citizens   Another issue that often comes up is the issue of war and law enforcement.  Does God give authority to governments so they can enforce law or protect citizens?  The Scripture is clear on this for all who accept the Scripture.  These are not issues for the Church to be involved with.  Most of the anti-war or anti-law campaigns are put forward by the anti-Christ religions, and...


There was a day when I worked so hard, always trying to get everything done.  There was always so much to do that it was impossible and frustrating.  It bothered me so much that it was a problem in my life.  Then, one day, it just came to me.  I suppose that somehow God revealed it to me, but it just seemed that I knew this all of a sudden. ...


Dwelling On Church Short-Comings   Consider the question. \"What about all the things that are wrong with the Church?\" The fact that you could ask that question is an indication that you are seeing that there are things that are the Church and things that are not the Church. You are seeing that there are things that have come into the Church that are not of the Church. You can obviously...


If you have not read Stories Versus Truth, you may want to read that before reading this.   The Mechanism for Evolution--How Does It Supposedly Work? When you turn on a light, do you suppose it\'s magic that makes the light bulb glow, or do you think there is some sort of mechanism that makes the light go on. There is a mechanism. Everything has a mechanism, and if evolution were a valid...


As with the home, God has an order for the Church, and that order is in the Scripture.  There may be more that needs to be revealed from Scripture, but some things appear to be quite easily understood in the light that God has given today.  We believe that the Holy Scriptures teach:   The 5 apostolic ministries(Ephesians 4:11)   The nine gifts of the Spirit (1 Corinthians 12:8-10)   Local congregations...


Satan told a lie that had enough truth to be convincing.  That's what he always does.   God cannot lie.  Satan always lies.  Satan meant this for evil, and that evil enemy continues to tempt every man and woman to struggle to try to become gods.  That is at the core of many of the useless cults such as New Age Religion, Alien false religions, and Secular Humanism. Yet, God said, \"I...


While everyone should promote tolerance, a promotion of homosexuality should not be thrust on little children and unexpecting parents. It is absolutely wrong for schools to be used to promote the homosexual lifestyle. Donald E. Wildmon, Founder and Chairman American Family Association The above quote is part of Mr. Wildmon\'s response to bold tactics using public schools to promote the homosexual lifestyle. 4brevard.com/choice/Public_Education.htm This link is a real revelation of what has...


If you have not read Stories Versus Truth, you may want to read that before reading this. Relativism says there can be no absolute doctrine, principle or standard. Of course, that means that relativism violates its own premise, because relativism is an absolute doctrine, principle, and standard. The belief in absolutes, sometimes known as absolutism says there can be an absolute doctrine, principle or standard. Note: there are other, unrelated meanings...


What Is the Nature of True Liberty? � Worldly liberals are all about liberty. They want to be liberated, but from what? What do worldly liberals want to be liberated from? What do they want to be liberated to. What is this liberty What is this liberty of which we freely speak? We\'re free from Christ or free from self, There is no in-between. And if we\'re free...


In a sense, He does take you just as you are, but some people present God with a proposition that is unworkable.  They want to be joined to God and to not be joined to God.  That can\'t work. God takes you just as you are and makes you a new person.  Some people are so rebellious that they don\'t want this free gift.  They ask, \"Why god can\'t accept sin?\" ...


  The Bible is still unchallenged, though many have spent fortunes (often pubic tax money) trying to discredit it, not a single error has been found. All attempts have failed to find an error or inconsistency in the Bible. All attempts have failed to explain away the miracles in the Bible using the assumptions of Naturalism, materialism and uniformitarianism. When miracles take place today, then the followers of materialism and Naturalism will...


Question: What is the church? How it should be governed. what kind of worship is most pleasing God? Describe the different answers given in the 17th century church of England to these questions. what was the outcome of these controversies? What challenges to traditional theology were experienced in the 17th century and 18th century? and what effects could be seen in the life of the Christian church? what was the usual...


If you have not read Stories Versus Truth, you may want to read that before reading this. Question: I am an Atheist and have not [SIC] history of violence. Have you ever even read your Bible and it\'s history of violence? Answer: I\'m glad that you don\'t have a history of violence. And I think that we agree that violence is a terrible thing. As a person who believes in Christ, I can...


If you have not read Stories Versus Truth, you may want to read that before reading this. Don\'t forget where you are going. You get past the questions/attacks so you can proclaim the Gospel. It is the proclamation of the Gospel, not argumentation, that transforms minds. See Give Them the Gospel. How to Handle This Question (The parts in quotes are just examples of what you might say or ask.) It is best to...


Yes, the Bible says it is infallible. Notice the following scriptures. the Scripture cannot be broken John 10:35 b For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. 2 Peter 1:21 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but...


There are no contradictions in the Bible.  Those who make these claims are confused, uninformed, or else deceptive.  Sometimes, it is a little of each.  Perhaps they don\'t know what a contradiction is. A contradiction says, \"At the same time and in the same relationship, two mutually exclusive propositions are both true.\"   That is a contradiction.  However, the Bible does not have any such thing.  A contradiction says: \"at the same time and in the same...


Study To Shew Thyself Approved. That means to give diligence, and that means to listen to the Spirit of God, because you need guidance as you read. Study to shew thyself approved to God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 2 Timothy 2:15 Actually, the word, \"study,\" in this verse means to make an effort or to be dilligent. Strong\'s 4704 spoudazo spoo-dad\'-zo from 4710; TDNT-7:559,1069;...


If you have not read Stories Versus Truth, you may want to read that before reading this.   Many stars are billions of light years away from the earth. Evolutionists and Old Earthers claim that means that it would take billions of years for the light from those stars to get to the earth. Is there any truth to this claim? Actually, distant starlight is a problem for Evolutionists--not for creationists. While we...


If you have not read Stories Versus Truth, you may want to read that before reading this.   Evolutionists claim that the Founder Principle to justifies Evolutionary stories. Is there any truth to this claim? The Founder Principle gives no method for adding information or complexity. It takes away information. Gecko study, used by Evolutionists using loopy logic, actually supports a biblical creation model and completely destroys evolutionary theory The reason we believe is not...


Evolutionists and Old-Earthers claim that the days of Genesis 1 were not literal. Those who want to commit various sins and don\'t want to obey God will try to discredit parts of the Bible. Many hate those things that God says concerning marriage and those things that are part of marriage and are not be used outside of marriage. They want to use what God created for marriage in a...


God's Way is not a smorgasbord from which the Christian may pick and choose.  For each person, God pulls back the veil of the flesh so the person can see some element of the Kingdom of God.  The person either receives the revelation or not.  We are all on the road somewhere.  Many are stuck in a rut because they continually reject what God has revealed to them.   Many rejected...


Question: The Old Covenant royal law of love is that upon which Christ said all the Law and Prophets hang. What do you think is the essential difference to how that was kept or fulfilled under the Old Covenant of Law and how it is kept or fulfilled under the New Covenant of Grace? Answer: Paul, speaking of those who tried to fulfill the law under the Old Covenant, said: \"For they being...


This is one of the most common questions that we get at SeekFind.net. It seems that many people are unsure about their salvation. Question: \"I believe I have been saved. I was so worried about my death and what would happen if I died, and I knew I had no place in heaven. I found my wife\'s Bible and read for hours, and I broke down in my heart and I knew...


If you have not read Stories Versus Truth, you may want to read that before reading this. And don\'t forget where you are going. You get past the questions/attacks so you can proclaim the Gospel. It is the proclamation of the Gospel, not argumentation, that transforms minds. See Give Them the Gospel. Anti-Bible, Anti-God Comment: \"...and Isaiah 13:16 which extends to bashing babies against rocks in Hosea 13:16 & Psalm 137:9.\" (Read the...


If you have not read Stories Versus Truth, you may want to read that before reading this. And don\'t forget where you are going. You get past the questions/attacks so you can proclaim the Gospel. It is the proclamation of the Gospel, not argumentation, that transforms minds. See Give Them the Gospel. Comment: \"... read about god supported child abuse in Judges 11:29-40...\" Answer: (Read the article that prompted this comment HERE) (See the entire...


If you have not read Stories Versus Truth, you may want to read that before reading this. And don\'t forget where you are going. You get past the questions/attacks so you can proclaim the Gospel. It is the proclamation of the Gospel, not argumentation, that transforms minds. See Give Them the Gospel. Comment: \"... I would recommend you read Exodus 21:1-11 where the God of the Bible allows slavery, including selling your...


If you have not read Stories Versus Truth, you may want to read that before reading this. The Magic Trick An anonymous commenter writes: \"It is interesting that you say that research done by others is \"lies, creative stories, loopy logic, and insanity\' however you do not support any of your statements with evidence. Debate is essential to maintain a high quality of research in society however you must support your claims. As...


Question: As a Christen being married, I committed many sins--lie\'s on top of lies.  I was in sexual sin.  I scammed insurance companies and other companies out of huge amounts of money.  Then, I asked God to forgive me and change me,  The Word, Jesus, has changed me.  These sins are not with me any more.  I\'m stronger in the Lord now.  I hate the person that I was.  I would...


Comment: I have to say that you are making inaccurate comments on Islam. In the first few pages of the Quaran it says \"If you do not believe in Jesus Christ and his teachings you can never be a Muslim\". So what does that tell you about our belief in Jesus Christ? We also believe in the Second Coming of Christ. SeekFind.net Answer: Thank you for your letter.   I appreciate it.   It...


Comment: You use your website (very carefully) to advocate religious propaganda. There is so much inaccurate information on there. Seekfind.net Answer: You say that SeekFind.net uses its website to (very carefully) advocate religious propaganda. I\'m not sure what you mean. The purpose is to glorify Christ and to open the door for anyone to come to Him and abide with Him and grow to the measure of the stature of the fullness of...


Comment: In our Quaran it says that \"If you kill a person it\'s as though you\'ve killed the whole of humanity\". Terrorists who commit suicide bombings and other atrocities are only Muslim by name, not by religion. These things are NOT allowed in Islam. If people bring shame to their religion, don\'t blame the religion as being violent, blame the people. When Hitler committed atrocities did they call him a Christian...


Comment:   I hope you all burn in hell you close minded [deleted expletive], and ANOTHER THING thing just because a religion isn't the same as yours don't go bashing it down you [deleted expletive] [deleted expletive] and just because your saying. "Oh blah blah blah it's not meant to blah blah." What the [deleted expletive] ever.     The only difference between christianity and islam...you [deleted expletive] [deleted expletive]...is that muslims...


Comment: [Irrelevant ad hominem attack is deleted] First off you need to do some research on other religions before you can start to talk about them and criticize them. Second, making sweeping generalizations about anything and everything is what leads to the most idiotic of conversations, such as the one above. If you are truly interested in learning, I recommend doing some research instead of blurting out a whole bunch of...


Question: Why is Islam a \"false religion\" because in Islam, they believe that Jesus is a Messenger of God and thus can\'t be God? Isn\'t is so that the Earth in {SIC} unholy, why would god want to enter something that is unholy? Answer: If that statement were true, then the teachings of Jesus that we find in the Bible would be false and all of what is true that God has revealed...


Comment: The Bible isn\'t the exact word of God as if it were passed down from Jesus, unlike the Qur\'an which was written in the time when Muhammad was alive and like so, the Qur\'an has never been changed and is read in it\'s original language, while the Bible has seen different version and different translations which of course words and passages to be incorrect. In this way, the Bible and...


Question: Would you please help me to connect the old testament ministers to the new testament fivefold offices clearly stating the similarities of these offices. Answer: If you look throughout the old testament, there were elders of families and cities. When the Kingdom of God is fully established, there will likely be elders of families and cities. Consider the parable of the talents. The prophets and patriarchs passed spiritual authority by the laying on...


If you have not read Stories Versus Truth, you may want to read that before reading this.   Question: \"My Question is about Autralia. Do the very different types of animals found in Australia prove evolution. And/or do they prove that the flood account should not be taken literally. For example it is hard to imagine that animals left off by Noah at Mt. Arrarat would then become isolated on just one continent....


Question: I feel so empty and alone inside. I have been going to church since I was little. I do believe in God, but I don\'t know why I can\'t accept Him fully. I feel embarrassed about giving myself fully to Him. I often feel like letting go and leaving everything to God, but when the time comes I choke. I\'m NOT running around sinning, yet, I feel empty and alone....



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